Do you ever have moments of rash thoughts or behavior?
Call it impulsive, spur-of-the-moment.
I have them about once every other second.
Which is part of the reason why I work so hard at self-control. I'm constantly trying to reign in all my impulses, which can quickly get out of control, if left unchecked.
Here's a perfect example.
Maybe it's the fact that we're only 2 weeks away from getting Joseph's bar exam results, and thereby securing our financial future, or not (if he doesn't pass).
Maybe it was because I had a cold all week, then Joseph got it, and both of us were a little lackluster. Housework piled up like so many noxious weeds in the front yard flower bed.
I don't know, whatever it was, I woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
I don't know, whatever it was, I woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
And I decided, I was through with breastfeeding. I wanted to be done with it. Right then.
Salem is 14 months now.
I nursed all my kids for at least a year (Hyrum 12 months, Asher 14, & Mali, 17).
I've always thought it would be ideal if I could say I nursed one of my kids until 18 months. Completely arbitrary, I know.
I'm well aware of the benefits of nursing, and I think here in the U.S., our culture doesn't foster enough for support for mom's to nurse longer than 12 months.
The benefits of breast milk don't go away once a child turns a year. There is nothing magical about turning 12 months. They are still growing and developing, and can benefit from breast milk.
Trouble is, breast feeding can be a bit of burden.
Sure, it's bonding time, and there are all sorts of perks from that, but it requires more time and effort, and after awhile you're ready to be done because as long as you are nursing, your body is not entirely back to "normal."
The WHO (World Health Organization) recommends nursing until the age of 2. The U.S. recommendations are half that (until one year).
All of these issues were running through my mind as the thought of being done with nursing deliciously planted itself in my brain. I want freedom! I want to not be nursing or pregnant for awhile (is that too much to ask?!).
I further thought of all the reasons why Salem is ready to be done--she is still nursing several times a day (4-6 times), but she has 4 teeth, & more on the way. She's interested in and likes food.
She's not that attached to nursing, I told myself.
Plus, I am done.
I want my body back, I've had enough of sharing it with 4 kids. I've had very little personal space, what with being pregnant or nursing, or sometimes both, in the past (almost) 8 years.
I deserve a little break, don't I?
I told Joseph I was done, and decided that despite the "experts" advice to wean slowly, I was going to get this done & over with.
My plan? I'd just wait until I was so full of milk until I could hardly stand it, then I'd feed Salem, and repeat the process. Over a few days, I'd drain my milk supply by ratcheting down the amount of feedings, and within a few days--FREEDOM!
(Why is that these rash plans sound so great in the moment, but in retrospect, are clearly nonsensical?)
My brilliant plan lasted all but a few hours.
In that short time, Salem demonstrated that she did, in fact, very much enjoy nursing and expect me to nurse her.
I didn't really notice this before, but she communicates when she wants me to feed her, and gets excited when I do. You know, tugging at my shirt, batting at my chest, saying "baby," when she wants me to feed her.
Also, my body is a milk-producing machine. Who am I kidding? There's no way I'd be able to wean nearly overnight. Within a few hours I am noticeably full with milk. If I miss a feeding, I am uncomfortable and frantically looking for my baby or a pump.
In a matter of hours, my concrete resolve to be through with nursing, melted away.
I suppose Salem is not ready to be done. At least not this week, or even this month.
So what if I have moments where I really am not crazy about nursing? They are momentary and fleeting.
And it is true, every kid is different (I did not have this experience with my boys, who joyfully weaned themselves at 12 months, and 14 months respectively), and there is no rush.
So, I've decided I'm going to continue to nurse Salem as I have been, and let her decide when she's ready to be done. I trust that that will happen before she's 2. I anticipate that she'll be ready to wean much sooner than that. I (have to) trust the process, which I think is a natural one.
As for the rash thoughts?
Chalk it up to a bad week, that sudden desire to quit nursing has come and gone, like so many irrational impulses before it.
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How long do you breast feed your babies? Are there moments when you want to quit? Why(or why not) do you (dis)continue?
How long do you breast feed your babies? Are there moments when you want to quit? Why(or why not) do you (dis)continue?
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I've had those thoughts a lot! My 3rd is 8 months old and I have contemplated doing it for a couple of months now, even though I don't have any desire to give him formula. I, too, want my body back and the poor kid is getting reactions to all sorts of foods, and even with introducing solids slowly, I am having a hard time figuring out which foods are bothering him or if it's something I was eating that is causing the reaction. I sometimes think it would be easier if I took out my milk as one of the variables. I try to go to a year. I admire you going longer. I guess I am a little too selfish for that. I think I'll probably last the year, but I really struggle with the non-indepence of babies. I am not a small kids parents. I love my kids to pieces, but I enjoy every time they do another thing that is independent from me. Hence, nursing is one of those things I do because I know how important it is, but I celebrate when it's over.
ReplyDeleteI'm still nursing #2 (10 months tomorrow) and breastmilk comprises about 80% of his food intake. I still feed him the same amount but he eats a ton now too. He also has a ton of suspected food allergies like his big brother, so I almost feel that breastmilk is one of the guaranteed "safe" foods (as long I stay away from wheat, dairy and eggs).
ReplyDeleteI don't mind nursing at all and am not concerned about having my body back just yet. I'm actually ready for another kiddo, but my fertility didn't return until 1 year after #1 was born. When I was preggo with #2 and #1 was still nursing, I started not to want ANYONE to touch my breasts, but by then he was ready to wean too and that was that.
Although I'm ready for another baby, my body clearly isn't (no fertility yet) and I'm not going to short #2 by weaning him prematurely just to get #3 a-cooking.
-Liz
Oh man, I know exactly what you mean. I nursed my little girl until 25 months! And even then, she wasn't ready for it. She would probably have gone well past 3 years old if I had let her. But I just couldn't take it anymore. I had had those feelings you described along the way, but never too strong. Then all of a sudden, it became unbearable to breastfeed. I can't explain why, since it wasn't physical, it didn't hurt, and nothing concrete had changed. Except that every time she would latch on I'd get this horrible and almost uncontrollable urge to push her away from me. It took a lot of self control not to do it, and I was still able to wean her gradually over a period of 2 months. I still don't know what came over me because I loved breastfeeding. It was just like a switch flipped and I was done.
ReplyDeleteI don't want to stop nursing. My daughter is 13 months now and is only nursing 2-3 times a day. At some or all the feedings she often will only nurse on one side and scream when I try to offer the other (something she did not do before). My hubby says she may be getting ready to stop, I'm not ready! I love it. I have. I had so much difficulty with it at first. She for the first few weeks nursed fine then started screaming bloody murder when I'd try. This kept happening so I started pumping and offered her the bottle, she loved it. We did this for a few months, I constantly pumped, she drank from a bottle. Then one day she decided she wanted to nurse again and we did until now. She was at 4-6 times a day now it's less. I keep thinking it's my fault for offering her almond milk during the day. For offering her water for feeding her solids. She loves food, all vegan which makes me very happy, so I don't know maybe she just doesn't want to nurse much. It does make it easier at work seeing as the law only protects woman who pump for one year. Kinda sad actually. I'm hoping my milk supply stays up for the 2-3 feedings a day. I worry it won't. I guess we'll see what happens. Thanks for sharing this story! I
ReplyDeleteI have nursed 6 kids and with each one I said (to anyone who would listen, but mostly my DH) that I was only going to "do it" for six months. My first son weaned at 12 months and then it went downhill from there! I even tandem nursed my boys who are 17 months apart.
ReplyDeleteI am currently nursing my DD who is three (yes three) but the one thing that age (I am old!) has brought me is the realization that time goes to quickly. The reason for my wanting to wean was wanting my body back, being too busy, being tired and feeling that I was trapped.
Then I lost my seventh child and I realized how I can never take time back. What I would have given to nurse him. He was stillborn and I am so glad that I didn't wean my DD when I was pregnant with him. Now I sit down and relax when I BF her. We too homeschool so I know how crazy it can get but it forces me to stop, to breathe and to relax.
My oldest is almost 18 and the time has flown. When you have little ones at home (I have five under the age of seven) it is tough. The days seem long and you just want to be "done with that stage". I wish that when my first son was 12 months I hadn't rejoiced so much when he weaned. What I would give now for a quiet cuddle on the couch.
Each child is so different and all of my weaned at varying ages. I know it is so hard to enjoy when you are in the crux of it but all I can say is that I have never regreted long term nursing but I do have regrets that I pushed my first DS to wean.
Love your blog and you are doing an awesome job momma!
**should have read "had" five under the age of 7**
ReplyDeleteMy DS are now 17,15, 13, 11 & 10
Michelle
I nursed my first to 14 or 15 months and I'm still nursing my 2nd child that just turned 2. My goal was to get to 18 months then to 2 years with him. I made it and part of me is so ready to be done and part of me doesn't quite want to let go yet. The 2 year old is definitely not ready to be done. BUT I DO want to give my body a "break" before our next one, so I'd better get to weaning if I'm to actually get a break. :-p I do need to take care of a (somewhat minor) personal health issue too that I can't take medicine for while nursing or pregnant...I've been delaying taking care of it but I really do need to! And hopefully I still have time to take care of it before #3 as well... sigh. It really is hard not having your body to yourself for years!
ReplyDeleteSabrina: I can relate to the adverse food reactions. I've learned the hard way--it's much safer to restrict food variety, the first year of life especially. I don't think you are selfish for wanting to stop breastfeeding. You've got to do what is best for him AND you. Most women don't or are not able to get past 6 months, so you should consider this an accomplishment.
ReplyDeleteLiz: You're already ready for #3? You go girl! My fertility has progressively gotten longer with each kid. Didn't return until 18 months postpartum after #3, and still not back after #4 (I see this as a blessing for now!). I agree that breastmilk is a "safe" food as long as your diet eliminates potential trigger foods. This is part of the reason I want to breast feed longer. There is no food that compares to the nutrient quality of milk and I know that my baby is not allergic to it.
I.ikeda: Wow, 25 months! That is something. I think I'm starting to relate to your experience. Not quite at the point of unbearable, but it's getting there. Perhaps it's mother nature's way of making sure that we don't nurse forever?
Vlinder: Aw, shucks. I've heard of these stories. I suppose you really can't force it if they are ready to move on, even if you aren't. Good for you for sticking with it and pumping, I'm surprised she went back to nursing after the bottle, that's good to know it's possible. Where do you live that the law only protects breastfeeding women for a year? Best of luck with your daughter :)
Michelle: You're words of wisdom really touched me. I definitely could use a seasoned professional perspective these days, when I'm in the thick of things. I don't wish the days away, but I need to constantly check in with myself and make sure I'm savoring the special "mom"ents. The cuddles on the couch, like you mention. That's what makes being a mom so amazing. Thank you for taking the time to share your wisdom & advice. It has given me something to ponder and think about.
Melanie: Yes, I agree, I think it's probably a good idea to give your body a break before #3. But sounds like you know what you've gotta do already.
2 years is quite impressive, I'm sure he's a strapping young toddler, what with all the amazing breast milk he's had.
ALL: Thank you for sharing!
This is what makes doing my blog worth it, so I can hear from you amazing ladies and learn from your experiences & perspectives.
As someone pregnant with her first child, I can say that this discussion has been inspiring! I am committed to breast-feeding and i hope to go at least a year, but so many people in my everyday life make it seem impossible. But look at all of you! So many who choose to give your babies the best. Inspiring....thanks!
ReplyDeleteAlso, Janae, I would love to know if there are any books or principles you follow with introducing solids to your kids. I have read Dr. Fuhrman's book on feeding kids, but I would like to read more about plant-based eating and kids.
Lastly, are there any books about breast-feeding or even child-rearing in general that you would say are must-reads? I know opinions vary, but I love hearing from mom's who seem to have great kids.
Thanks!
lfwfv
Wonderful thoughts from everyone! Breastfeeding is such a personal thing for each mama. Everyone's idea of how long to nurse differs, based on all sorts of variables.
ReplyDeleteI, for instance, at 34 years young. I had my first baby at age 33. It took us 2.5 years to conceive her. Lots of tears, $, heartache, etc. Now that she's here, (she turns 1 on April 19th) we would love to have another, because, let's face it, I am NOT SPRING CHICK! These eggs of mine may nearly be hard boiled! We don't have time to "space them out" at this stage in our life.
I hated breastfeeding for the first few months. I just cried as she latched on, and bit my tongue as she sucked. I couldn't wait for it to be over. I dreaded the shower, being bra-less or anything that aggravated my breast. UGH! It wasn't until she was 5 months old that I started to enjoy breastfeeding her.
Now, she's almost one and I am just TORN about weening her. My period returned in November and knowing that it took so long to conceive her, I wonder if my desire to continue to nurse her will affect our chances at conceiving #2 or not. Who knows, right?? I treasure those 3-4 nursings a day. And recently, she's learned the sign for "milk" and has started reaching/grabbing at my shirt. Those sweet eyes of hers, look into mine, how can I say "no" to her? Mother's milk...the most perfect nutrition for her. How can I deny her that comfort/nutrition, just so we can have another baby? Am I rushing things with her, not savouring the moment of our first child? I am TORN!!! We've been trying to conceive for 5 months now...and it may take another 12 months, especially if I keep nursing, right?
Does anyone have any ideas about this? I would love to nurse her until 18 months, if I knew I could get pregnant in the next few months. I guess it's all in the Lord's hand. Part of me is just sad to turn the tap off and give my baby "milk". (Speaking of milk, WFVM, do you just use soy/almond/rice/hemp milk as a substitute for cow milk or do you pack your baby's calories with food?)
Lfwfv: You've brought up some good points & questions about solids and book recommendations that I'd love to address in a post. Definitely deserves some attention, more than I can give here. Mind if I answer your questions in a post? It may take a bit, but I promise I will answer your questions. They are good ones, which I'm sure many others share the same ones.
ReplyDeleteYou are going to be one amazing momma, I can just tell :)!
Mrs. Vanna Z: I'm so touched by how much you love your little daughter. I really love your story. You stuck with breastfeeding even though it was obviously very hard for you. How inspiring to see that things turned around for you & you know love it. I might have some tears in my eyes, I admit. Very touching.
Although, I know most women would totally understand & not judge you had you decided to bottle feed after all those hard months of sticking it out. But again, what an inspiration you are to show such commitment to doing it.
Your little dilemma is one that I'd like to give my 2 cents on, but I'd love to see if anyone else has any thoughts on it. Really, I'd like to turn this into a whole other post (would you mind? I won't single you out if you wouldn't feel comfortable), because I can assure you, you are not the 1st woman to feel torn about shortening nursing in order to try and conceive. A dilemma for sure.
Thanks for sharing your story. Touching, indeed.
This kind of discussion is hard for me. I tried really, really hard to breastfeed, and because of many reasons I will not bore you with, I was unable to. I wanted to breastfeed so bad, but finally had to give it up for my own sanity and for my baby's health. I will say, everyone in the house was happier once that struggle was over and we finally accepted that formula was going to be the source of our baby's nutrition.
ReplyDeleteInstead of continuing to lament the loss of that experience, I do have a question. At one year, the doctors expect you to wean babies off formula/breastmilk. A lot of my friends have told me (and I've read) that they want you to start replacing formula/breastmilk with cow's milk. *gasp* What!? Um, ew. Apparently, it has fat that is good for brain development, along with calcium, protein, vitamin D, etc.
If I'm not breastfeeding, he's not drinking formula and I don't want him drinking cow's milk, how can I make sure he gets all the calories and nutrients he needs?
I had a surprise C-section with my first child after 48 hours of labor (she was 11 days past the due date and I only dilated to a 6 after 48 hours of pitocin labor). I wasn’t able to exclusively breastfeed my daughter (we supplemented with formula) and many have suggested that perhaps it was a result of having a C-section (???). It was a great disappointment to not be able to provide milk for my daughter. I tried all sorts of things to help me produce more milk. I tried herbs, herbal teas, used an SNS for a long time and since she was my first I spent all day everyday sitting on the couch nursing. This created a strong breastfeeding bond between the two of us and she just loved to suckle and be close and snuggle even though I didn’t produce an adequate supply. She ended up “nursing” until she was over 2 years old. We had to stop when I got pregnant with our second child and I was too sore to nurse. I am hope, hope, hoping that things will be different with our second daughter and I will be able to breastfeed exclusively but if not that will be ok too.
ReplyDeleteOh, I so relate to all of this! My daughter will be 15 months soon and I´ve *decided* (just like you :)) a few times already that I was pretty much done with breastfeeding. But the two of us just couldn`t quit and I am mostly glad about it. A wonderfuld book I have turned to many many times already (a classic but now completely revised and updated) is "The Womanly Art Of Breastfeeding" by La Leche League International. It is so comforting to know there are other women who have been through all of this and are offering support in such a compassionate and competent way.
ReplyDeleteI am so glad to hear you decided to stick with it! I know I've been there before-wanting to stop early esp. w/ #1. I have 3 kiddos-my daughter was never a cuddler, never liked nursing, and I worked so she got a bottle several days a week (of breast milk). By 6 months I wasn't producing enough (remember-she preferred the bottle over me!) so by 9 months she was pretty much weaned although I did still try and nurse her in the AMs til she was 12 months. She would only do it a few minutes though.
ReplyDeleteMy second nursed til he was 14 months. I wanted to go longer but it was a very natural and gradual nursing that both of us were okay with.
My daughter-number 3-is such a blessing! She was born with Duodenal Atresia-which is a medical term for a blocked intestine. Before they knew how to fix this problem via surgery these babies died. She was in the NICU at a big children's hospital in Chicago for 7 weeks! B/c of the atresia she was born 6 weeks premature. Also she was not able to take anything by mouth for 5 weeks and was few through an IV and then through a tube directly into her intestines. She endured 2 surgeries in the first 2 weeks of her life. Once she was able to eat by mouth it was with a bottle so they could be very precise about how much she ate. Too much and it could actually hurt her. I only was able to nurse her a few times in the hospital and at discharge the Dr's had me so scared that if I breastfed her she'd not get enough to eat and die. We took her home and I decided I would see what happened and if she did need to be bottle fed and not breastfed, then I would choose to be okay with it. She took her first breastfeeding at home about half an hour after getting there and has never touched a bottle since!! I swear, this girl was BORN to NURSE! So I LOVE it with her because we had SUCH a journey to get here. I hope she wants to nurse well past 18 months. I seriously love every second she nurses. She's currently nearly 10 months old and nurses about 6x a day-though only 2 or 3 of those are serious, food, guzzling sessions.
Thanks for reading this and thanks for this post! I know a lot of moms can relate!
BTW-Mrs. Vanna Z-YES you can get pregnant while nursing, esp. with getting your period back. I have LOTS of friends who were breastfeeding mulitple times a day and still got pregnant. My one friend was actually nursing her 18 month old about 8x a day and still got pregnant. For her, she said the biggest thing to help her get pregnant was to night wean. Maybe that will help. :)
ReplyDeleteI've never been in a hurry to wean but my older 3 kids did it all by themselves between 12-14 months. It wasn't much of an effort. However, I actually didn't get pregnant immediately after weaning my 3rd and I noticed a great increase in my libido. After either nursing or being pregnant for so long I had forgotten I had one! Nursing and pregnancy apparently create hormones that are directly anti-libido. So I have to say that while I am currently nursing my 4th who is 10 months I am sooooo looking forward to being done. Nursing makes me happy but being a woman who has an appetite for her husband is better. (Sorry if this is TMI but for me, this is what nursing/weaning is about) So for me weaning is not about needing my body back... it's needing my normal hormone levels back. If I could nurse them and feel 100% me, I'd probably heavily encourage my kids to do it until age 2. As it stands though, I'm going to let her nurse til she loses interest like I did with my other ones and hope its sooner rather than later!
ReplyDeletehaha, of course I can wait for a post on my questions. My baby is currently in my uterus and is the size of a peach :) I think i'm a little bit hyper about getting all the info i can about breast-feeding, weaning, sleeping, and anything else child-related. I've even read toddler parenting books already. It will obviously be some time before I'll even need any of that info!
ReplyDeleteI would love to read your advice about books/feeding etc. whenever you get the inspiration and time to share it!
Thanks!
lfwfv
I live in Arizona and although my company has been great I fear that pushing it (it takes me about 30 minutes start to finish) to pump and get back to my job. Today, my little one has wanted to nurse most of the day, which is great! I'll nurse when she needs it and if need be I will pump at work. I am happy she likes unsweetened almond milk as much as she does though. She did great after BM in the bottle. This made things easier when she started at her school. She doesn't prefer one over the other. She took the bottle well for her teachers and nursed well at home. It can be done. I was diligent though. Pumping was time consuming but now, 13 months in, it was so worth it!
ReplyDelete~PlantStrongMoma
EMALEI: It's ok to continue your child on formula for a while longer then 12 months; even up to 24 months. Some peds say it may interfere with their food intake. I actually switched from breast to formula at 12 months and didn't go to cows milk until my daughter was 24 months. She had no trouble eating and is atually an amazing eater still to this day but all children are different. I did go to Organic milk as it doesn't contain herbicides, pestiides, hormones and synthetic fertilizers etc. Eventually realized she was lactose intol. and the cows milk didn't agree with her anyway. Not sure what your reason is behind not wanting to feed your baby cows milk but if it isn't the reason I just stated and you do not want to give cows milk at all or continue with formula then you just have to make sure to get Calcium-rich foods such as strawberries, spinach, peas, broccoli -about 800 mg of calcium per day is needed at one years old.
ReplyDeleteRice, coconut and almond milk are also great alternatives, they don't contain the same amounts of fat and vitamins as cows milk so you have to be careful but don't use Soy milk...it is not good for you or your baby. I'm sure VeganMomma would have some more great suggestions for you, love her site and just thought I would help out and answer your question.
http://ecoblogicalmommy.blogspot.ca/
This post SOOO strikes a chord with me!!!
ReplyDeleteI am currently nursing my 18 month old girl. I have had those moments where the thought of nursing one more time feels like it will break me. I have to walk away, and listen to her cry until I can calm down enough to "have mercy" on her little soul, suck it up, and go BF her. There have been times when, after like 6 BF sessions I feel like she is asking because she is hungry, and I go feed her table foods instead. This has helped.
I also experience those times when I am so glad to still be nursing! My other children weaned themselves at exactly 12 months, and I felt like somehow we were short-changed. I felt ripped-off, but only after a few weeks of no nursing. It took time to realize how much I loved those moments of cuddling and connection. Too much time to switch back and get the milk going again.
Something that has absolutely saved my sanity with nursing Megan this long is to reward myself. I realize that I love to be active and that what kills me about nursing sometimes is that I have to hold still. I am trapped and I can't be "productive." So, I think, well, what are some of my favorite things to do that are sedentary?
Reading books is one, vegan cookbooks or whole foods nutrition books especially. I also love conference talks, and I LOOOOVE reading this blog! And other really great vegan blogs. I let myself read any and all of these things while breastfeeding. Sometimes I sit in my most comfortable chair and grab my fav book. Other times, I park it in front of the comp and read my fav sites -- something I cant normally allow myself to do with a house to clean and 3 kids, etc. So it makes it a treat for me and Meg.
I do get frustrated when I feel like my milk supply is slowly getting lower and lower, and Megan is still wanting more. I have to eat oatmeal every day to keep my supply (I have read in many books that his helps) and I also take fenugreek, "Mom's Milk," and blessed thistle.
Any other suggestions to keep milk up, or increase supply? I am totally jealous that you are a milk-making machine! I wish I had that problem...it is especially cool that you could have a lower body fat and still make so much milk.
Ashlee
I also wanted to say that the very best book, with so much info in it that I have read, is "The Nursing Mother's Companion." (Of course also, Dr. Fuhrman's book on Feeding Kids Right.)
ReplyDeleteThe author, Kathleen Huggins, has been an RN for 25 years, and helped so many mothers.
I have read A LOT of pregnancy and nursing books, and this is the number one book that I would recommend.
She is all about doing what is natural, and going with your Mommy instincts instead of making everything so mechanical. I don't agree with her mentioning consuming animal products as a BF mommy or for your baby, but these are minor suggestions that just basically go along with food guide pyramid.
I highly recommend!! It's a very enjoyable read.
I personally think that ideally no child should EVER have cow's milk. It wreaks havoc on their digestion, their skin, and their immune system.
My daughter Megan suffered from chronic ear infections for 7 months and I had no idea that my going vegan would so completely solve this problem. I wish her ped would have said SOMETHING. Like maybe, "Well, studies have been done that possibly link children's chronic ear infections to cow's milk. You COULD try eliminating it from your diet and see if that helps." But nothing was ever mentioned. She was in line for having tubes placed in her ears via surgery, when suddenly the ear infections disappeared. I thought she had just "grown out" of them, but then after 3 months of no ear infections (after previously experiencing 7 months of chronic ear infections) it dawned on me -- the very week I went vegan was the very week my BF baby received relief from her infections and all that they entailed -- antibiotics, stomach upset, sleeplessness, fatigue, clingy, diarrhea, loss of appetite, etc.
I understand that some babies rely on cows milk. My own two older children had more cow's milk than their fair share, before I knew about the health benefits of being vegan. So I don't go around judging women who give their kids cows milk, I just know that for me personally, it has completely changed my and my families' life for the better -- it's made all the difference.
My daughter and I can live a happy, healthy, normal life and not spend our energy and time on antibiotics, at the doctor's office, on pain meds, and trying somehow to get some sleep and survive. We actually get to live!
Ashlee
I remember reading in The China Study (and elsewhere) that young girls on plant-based diets start menstruating later than girls who eat animal products. I was wondering to myself if being on a plant-based diet would result in my period returning later after childbirth and nursing than if I were eating animal products. Dr. Campbell states in The China Study that veganisim doesn't affect fertility (although it most likely inproves it in many situations) but sometimes I wonder.
ReplyDeleteAlso, for what it's worth, my favorite books on what and when to feed kids are Baby-Led Weaning by Rapley and Murkett and Disease-Proof Your Child by Fuhrman. We skipped baby foods and purees with my kiddos and went straight to solids. I also delayed introducing foods at all due to a long list of suspected (now confirmed) food allergies, but there are a few different schools of thought on that one. (One being delay solids to avoid allergies, another being introduce them early to avoid allergies.)
-Liz
Oh, I've felt like that lots of times! Mostly because I've had alot of complications. Sometimes just because I've wanted my body back. I bf'd my first until I ran out of milk when he was 9 months old and I was 5 months pregnant with his brother. I bf'd my second until he was 18 months until I ran out of milk halfway through my pregnancy with his younger brother. And just because I could, I bf'd my third until he wanted to quit... at age 3. And it made me happy.
ReplyDeleteNow that I'm 4 months into pumping for my fourth who was born with a cleft lip and palate, I would give anything to be breastfeeding my baby. Bottle feeding is such a different ballgame and try as I might, I can't bond with my breast pump quite the way I bonded with my babies. I wish I could snuggle up in bed with my baby at my breast and comfort him that when he is sad or hurt. I wish I had that something to give that no one else can. I'm glad I can still give my baby breastmilk. We are very blessed to have that going for us. But my heart still knows how much more my baby could have. Enjoy this time. It will be over soon enough!
You're a good momma leaving such an important decision (that requires sacrifice on your part) up to your baby.
All: Thanks for sharing your stories. Every one of you has offered some insight into how breastfeeding is complex issue & one that is clearly important to us all.
ReplyDeleteI wish it was easier for me to respond to each one of your comments, but blogger is pretty behind the times & their commenting platform leaves much to be desired. I'll be moving to WordPress soon so having an actual discussion will be much easier!
Your comments are so amazing, & again, I want to respond to each one of them, but I'm limited by the stinky format here. So I'll do the best I can (& look for the Part 2 post where I'll use many of your comments as part of the post).
Mrs. Vanna Z: You can most certainly get pregnant while nursing. I did with my first 3, but with my 4th I couldn't get pregnant until I had quit nursing cold-turkey for 6 months!
So...if you're really determined to get pregnant soon, maybe consider weaning. Tough, tough decision, but you've already given your daughter such a gift nursing as long as you have, so don't beat yourself up about it. Plus, it's so much fun to have siblings close in age. A lot of work for you, but as they get older, you and they will love it (& sometimes hate it, it's true).
Emalei: Sorry to hear that you didn't have success nursing. Not to worry, thanks to formula, you can make sure your baby has everything he needs to grow big, strong, & healthy.
Ecological gave some good advice. I personally, wouldn't do cow's milk (obvious, since I'm vegan & come from a long line of lactose intolerance as it is). Next best option if we're just talking milk, would be hemp, coconut, flax seed, or soy. I know a lot of folks are opposed to soy. I don't think you should worry about giving soy to your baby, unless you think he has an intolerance, but by no means is soy the only option. Coconut, almond, or soy yogurt are also great options for getting a lot of nutrients packed into his diet. This is another issue that really deserves a whole post...books have been written on the issue, there's so much to say.
Kristen: I'm so impressed you nursed despite the obstacles against you. You are truly inspiring!
Becca: Thanks for the book recommendation! Sounds like we have babies about the same age. It's a fun stage, huh? How long do you think you'll end up nursing?
Atwood Family of 5: Your experience with child #3 is so touching! I know I can speak for us all, you & are your daughter are proof of the amazing, natural bond that can be created w/ breastfeeding.
Rachel K: Thank you for addressing the libido issue. It's served as inspiration for Part 2 of this post, so more on my response to your comment in that post.
Plantstrong Mamma: Again, it gives me such hope to see mom's so committed to breastfeeding that they will sacrifice many things in order to do so. Pumping isn't easy--I did it for awhile & much prefer nursing to it. But, you are giving your baby such a gift of unparalleled nutrition.
Ecobiological: Thanks for taking the time to share some great advice. You pointed out a great fact, which is that, many non-dairy foods are calcium rich, which should play a big role in the child's diet.
Liz: Fertility can be affected by diet, for sure!
ReplyDeleteA vegan or plant-based diet is such a range, that you can't generalize and say: go vegan & you'll be fertile. Or eat meat & you'll be fertile. Or a SAD diet will make you infertile. It's a complex issue, one that I'd like to discuss in a future post, so thanks for bringing the issue to the forefront.
Your Welcome VeganMomma:) I love your recipes, the cc cookies were awesome. What an excellent job you have done with your blog!! As I do post some recipes and hope to post more "egg free" and "gluten free" ones, my blog mainly focuses on chemicals in cleaning and skin care products. All of my home made skin care recipes are Vegan thus far but a future recipe may contain Beeswax-not sure of your stand on Beeswax.
ReplyDeleteI am still nursing #2, he's 19 months. My first one decided he wanted to be done at 5 mths. I don't know when this one will decide that but I'm pretty sure he's my last child and I"m not in a rush. I love the quiet time in the morning when I'm just holding my sleepy nursing baby and I just want to hold one to those moments forever.
ReplyDeleteEcobiological: Your blog sounds awesome! I was actually looking for some chemical-free shampoo for my kids the other day at Wal-mart with no luck! I definitely want to learn more & be better at using only "safe" products in my home, especially w/ my kids. I look forward to checking out your blog.
ReplyDeleteI don't have any strong opinions about honey or beeswax. I know some vegans would argue I'm not a "true" vegan, but I just think there are more pressing matters than worrying about honey or beeswax. I'm more concerned about dairy & meat consumption & how they affect our health/planet.
Joya: Ah, I agree. Don't you just wish some moments could be captured in a jar and preserved forever? That's actually one of the hardest things for me as a mom is to realize my kids are going to grow up. Exciting, terrifying, & a wee bit sad to realize.